well, seeing as how Im new I have no room to say anything. I just thought Id share that Ive always played w/ the 3 step rule, but hey whatever! It is the bee the binds us.

Weazel. We've tortued poor Evan for too long and he's lashing out. It was the meatball thing that really made him what he is. Don't take it to heart. But if your going to spout off about how the game is played, you'd better have game. And Monkey Bowl is the time to show you're not just a rules (sorry, rulzzzz) geek.

who are you dude? can't you read? bigweazel47, i congratulate you on being the proud new owner of a name that no one knows, and from this point forward will be the butt of every joke made amongst my peers and i. obviously you know something about ultimate if you were able to look up the 10th edition and find some info on completely random and arbitrary aspects of the game that you've labeled misconceptions, but why? most people know this, and the ones that don't do not know enough to call anything on the field otherwise. i'm no psychic but i think you've been the victim of some bad calls and maybe even been the caller at times in the past. anyway, i'm digressing......hasn't it been asked politely like 8 times for people to abide by the rules and have a simple user name that is your "actual name"......hey loomis....man, who is this guy?? oh yea, from now on watch that leg of yours too , because i'll be straddling it with my junk and grindin' just like rick james' feet on eddie murphy's couch.

I was perusing the 10th edition today, and noticed the rules about delay of game. This is a frequently misunderstood part of the game, and it probably comes up ten times more often at tournaments than in league, but it's still good to know. Among other things, a dispute over this rule led to gunplay this Saturday, which left 9 wounded and 4 dead. Or something like that.

There are three ways that you can stall count somebody before they put the disc in play.

1.) If someone on the offense stands over the disc and doesn't pick it up, you can say "delay of game", and if they don't pick it up immediately, you can start a stall count.

Side note to #1, the rule on this actually says "if an offensive player stands over a disc ...", so unless they're right there on the disc, you have to use one of the rules below instead.

2.) If the disc is on the ground in bounds, and the offense is taking it's sweet time getting there, you can go to the disc and say "delay of game, ten seconds", and then five seconds later you say "five seconds", and then five seconds after that if they haven't gotten there and picked it up yet, you can start stalling. i.e. there's a ten second countdown before you start counting ten seconds.

3.) If the disc is on the ground out of bounds, and the offense is taking it's sweet time getting there, you can go to where the disc will come in and say "delay of game, twenty seconds", and the same as above, except they get twenty seconds before you can start the stall count.

Side note to #3, if you're on offense, and the disc is a mile away, you can thwart the twenty second plan by just asking the sidelines for another game disc.

Oh, and #4, on the Louisville Ultimate Forum, your user name has to be your real name. bigweazel47, who are you?

1. the give-and-go can only occur within the rules if the player is slowing down after the catch, allowing up to 3 ground contacts, making a throw before coming to a complete stop. This fits nicely within the current rules.

2. the large majority of check feet queries is about asking the catching player to call themselves in or out. Sometimes the catcher is can honestly assess where they stood on the field, most times they don't. My point was insisting someone who was looking up, possibly running at full speed, to guess where they steped within inches is often silly.

3. Not defenders but markers. On contact between marker and thrower, the marker always insist they were not moving at the time of contact and therefore the thrower threw into them.

Can you clarify if your fired up because:

1. People call travel to often or not often enough? You've quoted the rule very well--but there is also the non-travelling give-and -go play which involves not speeding up and not changing directions and releasing the disk before the feet have made 3rd ground contact.

2. Again good rule quote, but if I see a players about to throw from outside of bound--"check feet" is still a legitimate query. The thrower can then decide to step back into the field of play and whether or not they caught the disk before leaving it. They can ask for help if their unsure.

3. Are there an excessive number of defenders calling foul? Or an excessive number of throwers not calling foul?

Thanks
Alanna--my name--and there is just the one

There IS a section that discusses 'three steps', sort of. XV.D (see below). When you put all these together, interpret is like this:

As a receiver, you can throw the disc prior to your "third ground contact," without establishing a pivot, as long as you don't speed up, slow down or change direction.

Clear as mud?

XV Receiver: Any offensive player either in the act of catching the disc, or not in possession of the disc.
D. If the receiver is running or jumping while catching the disc, the receiver may throw a pass before the third ground contact after catching the disc without attempting to stop. However, changing direction or increasing speed while in possession of the disc is a travel.

So, who are you?

Whoever you are, yes, these things are true. A useful corollary of your first rule is that any time somebody catches the disc and then turns while they're coming to a stop, they've travelled. I think some of us probably do that more than we think.